The New Henry Big Boy X models are looking like may be the best value in a New Lever action rifle. And has since been dropped by everyone except TC.. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:44 pm, Post Relevant to what? Expect this one to make a comeback, like the 10mm. I dont live in big bear country. Some additional info on Fury Bullets, Detroit, MI. Winchester Model 1873. Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. Nobody shoots the .357 Max because no manufacturer chambers their firearms for it these days!" Factory throats are more like a forcing cone, done to keep pressures down, does zero for accuracy. Many shooters used their long-barreled .357 Magnum revolvers but usually longed for a bit more velocity to go with those heavy bullets. Dont believe me?? In addition to the 180-grain bullet, Speer makes a 220-grain FN that will exceed 1,500 fps in a 14-inch Contender, and Hornady and Sierra both make 200-grain RN versions that should reach 1,600 to 1,650 fps. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. W296 in .357 Rifle Loads | Ruger Forum But alas. That is fast. Build a Ruger#1. Many Max shooters (myself included) find poor accuracy with magnum cases. Ruger developed a Blackhawk specifically for the cartridge, but word of barrel erosion and "flame cutting" came to light quickly and production of the revolver was ceased with only about 400 produced. Both cartridges can be practical for hunting midsized, and some large game. Colt - Python, .357 Magnum. The one i have now has bllard rifling which is accurate with jacketed or lead bullets. by groschen1936 Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:30 am, Post A couple of decades ago, I had a New England, top-break, single-shot rifle chambered in .357 maximum with naught but iron sights. Emailed them and apparently they dont have wood parts that would fit. 357 Magnum Rifles | Sportsman's Warehouse You can boost the Unique up to around 11-12 grains, as I recall, and your gun should handle it fine with that bullet. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. All in all the .357 may be the best TEOTWAWKI round going. There were two major complaints with the Max, both having to do with powder gas erosion. Truth About Straight-Walled Cartridge Ballistics - Gun Digest - Gun Reviews The 357 max is all that plus a bit of more power available. The LGS is cleaned out. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary. And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. This is because revolvers allow a certain amount of gas to escape as the bullet jumps from the cylinder to the forcing cone, meaning lost pressure. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. About the only .357 or .38 spl ammo available now is the pricey 30-bucks-for-a-box-of-20 defensive loads. I just picked up a Ruger #1 CHP 357mag that will be going to the gun smyth next week to have the chamber stretched to da Max. Every bullet tested shot very well, and we did not have any key-holing whatsoever on any of the projectiles. Finding ammo can be tough for any caliber these days, but if youve already got a stash of .38 and .357 for your handguns, youve already got that covered. .357 Maximum || .355 | 140gr | Sellier & Bellot FMJ The round barrel is just 17.4 inches, threaded for a suppressor and features a 1:16 rate of twist. Ruger Supper Blackhawk 357 Maximum - Utah Gun Exchange Bare essentials. Why? The AR-15s in .223 are just glorified rabbit guns in my opinion. $150 if you take the simple route leaving the Henry forend on, (This for the extra handling and care packaging to protect the wood finish.). Per ballistics charts, and generally speaking due to all the variables from different cartridge loads, a .357 Mag out of a carbine rifle barrel approaches the muzzle velocity and energy of a .44 Mag from a handgun. Shout, I mean shoots, doesnt rally shout, kind of barks. NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS: Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for . Through the years, the company continued to expand and . Auction (145) . It is the .357 Remington Maximum. We call all major brands, calibers, and gauges of ammunition for your firearms. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. (I do have a Ruger LCR that was pretty good out of the box and a 50 year old 1911 that are in the running.). For some reason it's hard to exceed what 2400 can do in the .357 mag, but H110/W296 and lil gun should also be viable options. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. Go for a hike in the woods or mountains and you see deer most times of the year. In a handgun .357 is the upper level of my comfort zone. Yes I had one.. perry42 Nov 23, 2018 #12 tend to do quite well in the .357 Maximum. I am sure I am not the only one that is open to it but finds that it is not possible right now. by Rusty Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:22 pm, Post But those new X models are very hard to get now. I wish I had known Hornady was going to discontinue them, I would have stocked up on them. Although a crimp is not required for a single-shot firearm, I crimp anyway. There was enough space there for a scabbard with a .30-30 in it. I would accept the beating and get a .44 if I did. The sights are just like the CSBL are an XS Sights ghost ring sight set. Some loads use bullets of .358 for jacketed and .359 for lead. I chose not to raid the checking account for a c-note more and have been kicking myself since. While initially offered in .44-40, .32-20 and .38-40 (and discontinued for some time) a new version emerged in 2013 chambered for .357 Magnum/.38 Spl and a hammer block safety for safe carry. I told them if they were so worried about reloading they can have my brass. Even though it was flawed engineering, it was the cartridge that suffered. The 357 out-paces the 44-40 and 32-20 by a fair margin. And .45-70 would be awesome, too. This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. Email Mike at mike@357maximum.net or call 541 956 6938. Its replete with a brass receiver, 20-inch octagonal barrel and buckhorn rear sight, so it has the classic look and feel, but also features a brass bead front sight and 10-round magazine tube. Whats different about the pre-lawyer ones? This gun has a hardwood stock and forend, case colored receiver, and 22" barrel. Im just trying to figure out why in the hell a Marlin 357 lever gun has to retail at nearly 3 times what the same gun in 30-30 retails for. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. Also, at higher velocities, the bullet is able to realize a flatter trajectory meaning longer shots are possible. At least it can use use the same bullets as my Smiths. HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE For Sale from: Intrepid Shooting Sports | Positive feedback: 98% View | Verified Seller | 1551 Completed Sales View Sellers Items SOLD - $299.00 Shipping: $20.00 (or FREE in-store pick up!) Barrel has only been to the range for load development. The first loads I worked up were with Speers 0.358-inch 180-grain FNSP intended for the .35 Remington. Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. Two million signatures needed by Nov 17 to qualify for a 2021 Special Election. 357 max load Data | Graybeard Outdoors Big improvement in smothness. Post Remember the name Glenfeild. In Stock. The werent lever actions. Maybe people will wake up and smell the coffee. With a tuned lever action, you can unload 10 rounds in about 3 seconds: https://youtu.be/h1Wcy8HRQUo?list=TLPQMjcwNzIwMjC2VftOeStKpQ. Being forced to use the Winchester Trapper, the horror. .357 Magnum Rifle (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 102 loads. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. Nobody cared about the AR-15. The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. GunBroker.com Forums. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. One say I will probably add a .357 in a carbine for all around utility in the 100 yards or less range. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. But stoke it up and hear that little dog bark like a big dog! (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.) Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. Looking for 357 mg 200 gr hard cast data - Alaska Outdoors Forums The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. Look around on the internet. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:28 pm, Post It might not be a good reason but thats not what was asked. by Griff Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 pm, Post Single shots from Thompson/Center, Wichita and Merrill appeared on the expanding .357 Maximum market. The old tooling is long gone now. get the Lee hand press. Looking for 170-190gr bullet loads and a plinking load for a hard cast GC/cheep jacketed bullet. It lacks a top-mounted rail (you can still install one, the receiver is pre-tapped). Geoff: Nope, not yet. KBCraig, have you tried buying primers recently? The chronograph results show it is identical to the 35 Remington. Curious that this article features only the most expensive versions of .357 carbines. So if you want to shoot Max, Mag, and Specials; it is best to get a single shot. Turned out to be a skunk right underneath my stand. Then you wont be caught short. Do you have a case length limitation in your state for a straight wall case? It was sweet. And yes the price has been driven up on them, in the used market in the last 10, 15 years or so, especially the ones with no factory additional safetys, other than the half cock position of the hammers, such as the older Winchester and Marlin 94s. Have you actually tried looking for a .38/.357 lever gun? Based on the Encore being ok for the 270, up to 65,000 psi is Ok. by Hobie Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 am, Post They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). Handi Rifle in 357 Mag | Bushcraft USA Forums Until February of 2020 a person could get a lot of different cheap ( relatively) 38 Special and 357 target ammo. I can even hunt with both in some neighboring states, and do. The other was H-110 powder which never achieved what I thought was accurate. Mine was made in about 2005, for what its worth. 357 Magnum Ammo for Sale Up to 24% Off - OpticsPlanet The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Nosler JFP, LSWC, Sierra JHC, Nosler Part. I made a Magneto V3 adapter on the cheap, Dirt cheap UPS has officially stopped shipping guns. But the most painful thing is buying ammo for it. Seldom has any new gun/ new cartridge combination failed so quickly.Ruger's long-framed Blackhawk was first to market in two barrel lengths. I like all of them, they all have different personalities. Chiefs Special, 6 Python and Henry in 357. 357 Maximum, 44 mag, and 45 colt. by awp101 Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:23 pm, Post Pricey, but they take down to a package about 20 inches long without sacrificing accuracy and are very well made. Both are top performers. They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. Long guns get in the way. I wonder how the rimless version of the .357 Maximumthe .350 Legendwill fare. Reloading The .357 Magnum - Reload Ammo 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 From pressure data with this specific bullet, we knew there were no safety issues with the slightly oversize bullet as along as handloaders used Speer data for the Speer bullet. CHECK FOR EXCESS PROTRUSION OF THE CASE FROM THE END OF THE BARREL BEFORE FIRING! Free shipping for many products! A T/C Contender G2 or Encore makes a lot more since. Since this is a single-shot firearm, there is no potential for flame cutting, and the true potential of this cartridge is realized. The 1892 was one of Winchesters rifles designed by John Browning. Im just fed up with the fact I spent over $1000 in gun and ammo to not be able to use it AND when it comes back from the shop it is dirty, not fixed, and has some cosmetic issues that werent there when I shipped it. Caveat Emptor. You can shoot 357 Mags through it. . Speaking of bullets, the .357 is one of the best cast-bullet rounds ever, so add a lead pot, a mould, and a pan of lube to the kit. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gunsmith-review-wild-west-guns-marlin-rescue-project/, Not a .357, but a Rossi lever. Henry offers their stunningly beautiful rifles, all American-made, for substantially less than a Marlin price tag. .357 Maximum when loaded down in a rifle length barrel is almost like shooting an air rifle. .30 Carbine vs .357 Magnum - milsurps.com Designed to increase the range and pattern density of your favorite turkey gun. Note: A complete article about the .357 Maximum can be found on the Handgun Cartridge . Frankly the quality was sinking fast before Remington bought them out, but they went straight off the cliff when they fired all the Marlin workers and took their worn out tooling and put their own Remington workers (with no experience building lever guns) on them. Theyre also legal everywhere, even states with the most draconian gun control. Id bet the old timers that rode the wild and woolly west would have liked the magnum in a rifle. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. The large loop makes solid sense for colder climates like the plains states and Alaska. Click the link to go to the Contact page: If you choose to remove the forend, contact me first so you don't lose parts removing the forend! I know both of these are on the cheap side but the fun my kids and I have when we bring this to the range is priceless. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? It too feeds with no problems but is more work to make. You get the best of both the classic function of a lever gun with modern improvements. Read Their Fine Print!! by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am, Post Ruger, super Blackhawk 357, maximum 10 1/2 inch barrel in excellent condition and fire very little comes with original box and papers. Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. I sold both rather quickly. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm, Post Model 1873 and cowboyskinda synonymous. Or the new Marlin Dark series for a little more money. Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. Yeah both pretty awesome. Because the .357 Maximum in a Contender comes close to .35 Rem. Single Shot Rifle | Henry Repeating Arms I haven't dismissed the idea but I'll research the best rate-of-twist for it. Its so ugly I love it. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. Many people download it and get unburnt . The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close (r) range, inside about 150 yards. Most of our deer were harvested at 30-45 yards. But I take your point that a rifle can be usefuland fun. The 357 Magnum is a highly regarded round for hunting and self-defense. Best .357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifles. With higher-performance loads, the .357 carbine almost delivers real rifle ballistics. 357 Maximum | Black Dog Ammunition Loads for .357 Maximum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.) by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:55 am, Post The last time I was at the range with my marlin in 45-70 all eyes were on meeveryone else shooting the newest AR/AK and here comes this doofus with a lever action thumper. Considering that there are no problems with this cartridge in single-shot pistols and rifles, it is unfortunate that the revolver problems sullied the reputation of an otherwise fine cartridge. Marlin gets it and offers a true carbine. . That feature was what was holding me back from buying one.
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